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GiorgioM
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:12 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hello:

What is the difference from a HighBanker and a Power Sluice? Are they the same but different name?

I think I knos that a Sluice is that equipment that you put in the river/creek and sit there and feed it (I think). Just feed it classified stuff.

The HighBanker is that equipment in the bank and you feed it really fast and in quantity. No classifing needed.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:28 am Reply with quoteBack to top

They're the same, just different name for the same equipment.

Some "powersluices"/"highbankers" don't have a "true" hopper with a grizzly/classifier and spraybars like the Keene's and Proline's do...

http://www.keeneeng.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=175X8&Category_Code=PDS

http://www.prolinemining.com/2-5_dhc.html

such as the Jobe Powersluice which only has a headerbox...

http://www.goldfeverprospecting.com/joposl.html


If you ever talk to a Public offical/Ranger/Law Enforcement Officer concerning running a "Highbanker" on any parcel of public land/National Forest, etc., DON"T USE THE TERM "Highbanker" most don't know what it is and some will think that you're asking about "Hydraulic Mining" where you use high pressure water to wash gravel and banks/mountains down into your sluice box like in the early days of gold mining, use the term "Powersluice" it sounds more environmentally friendly then highbanker!!!

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GiorgioM
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:30 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Gold Seeker:

Thanks... will look at the links.

I really appreciate it.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:36 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I added a little warning on using these terms when asking for permission to use one so check the post again!!

I would also use that advice with private property owners as well.

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GiorgioM
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:49 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I dont like the Jobe because it does not have the hopper. Even thou the Jobe is a lot less expensive. Will look at the Keene and Proline and come back with questions.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:03 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I looked at the prolineand Keene. Seems the Proline brand does not have a lot to chose from. Dont know if it better that the Keene or not, but I will look into a Keene.

I wish the Keene web site had more infornation on it.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:10 am Reply with quoteBack to top

The link I posted for the Keene is not your normal Highbanker as that one has an 8' sluice I posted that one because it was the only one that shows the "grizzly", so you could see what I was referring too.

Proline doesn't have a lot of different selections as you mentioned, but IMHO the Prolines are built TANK stuff compared to the Keenes and will outlast them 3 to 1.

Also with a Keene's Highbanker "Combo" meaning that you can set it up to dredge as well, the hose connects to the hopper and then the material goes through the grizzly and then into the sluice, this is not how a true dredge works and you will have to get out of the water while dredging to clear any rock off of the grizzly or have a second person doing that, also these rocks may not get the proper washing action to get any gold that may still be stuck on them, also you don't get the true water action in the sluice like you would have with a dredge, also they use a suction nozzle that has you dealing with 2 hose at the nozzle like older dredges before they started using jet logs.

A Proline Highbanker combo has the hose connected to the back of the sluice via a jet log as do all true modern dredges(you can still get a dredge with a suction nozzle instead of the jet) and bypassing the hopper and grizzly, you get true dredge water action in the sluice that will clear it of gravel/rocks that will pass through the suction hose and you have only 1 hose to deal with in the water, with all the material going down the sluice the bigger rocks will get the proper washing action to release any stuck gold, this along with the quality of build of the Proline makes it my choice of the 2, some people may have other opinions on this subject.

Running both the Keene and Proline as just a highbanker they both will work well, but if I were looking to buy I would go for a combo so you could dredge with it if needed.

The difference/benefits/cons in a suction nozzle setup and a jet log setup is that with a suction nozzle you can work shallower water then you can with a jet log, with a suction nozzle if you pull the nozzle out of the water you will not have any ill affects to what you have in your sluice at the time, also it doesn't have as much suction as a jet nozzle, with a jet nozzle if you pull the nozzle out of the water it will blasted a water/air mixture down the sluice box and possibly dislodge gold trap in the sluice, Keene dredges are more prone to this affect than Proline dredges, a jet nozzle setup has more suction than a suction nozzle setup.

They both have their Pros and Cons and one maybe better than the other for certain areas/stream situations, but most people now days like the jet nozzle best, and some people have both setups for their dredge and combos so they can use them according to the what's best in the location they're working.

A good rule of thumb is if you're working in 8" to 12" or less of water a suction nozzle might be best, any deeper a jet nozzle is the right choice, just keep the nozzle from sucking air.

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GiorgioM
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:19 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Gold Seeker:

Thanks for the info. Very informative.

Im not ready to buy one, but I like to look in the future...LOL
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:32 am Reply with quoteBack to top

IMHO A Honcoop highbanker will beat the crap out of any other Highbanker on the market and is built better!!! Neither Proline or Keene will hold the fine gold that the Honcoop will capture. We put a sluice at the end of a Honcoop and one at the end of a Proline the one on the Honcoop had no gold in it the one on the Proline had gold from -20 to flour gold in it.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:45 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Kev NC wrote:
IMHO A Honcoop highbanker will beat the crap out of any other Highbanker on the market and is built better!!! Neither Proline or Keene will hold the fine gold that the Honcoop will capture. We put a sluice at the end of a Honcoop and one at the end of a Proline the one on the Honcoop had no gold in it the one on the Proline had gold from -20 to flour gold in it.

Kev


Thanks for the info. I will look into it more. It seems its a lot more expensive then the Keene... But maybe worth it.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:15 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes they are more expensive but I think it is well worth the money. I have both a proline 3 inch combo and the HB17 Honcoop and the Honcoop is by far my favorite for highbanking. The inly reason I have the Proline combo is for using as a dredge way back up in areas that I can't get a regular dredge to or don't have the water for a regular dredge.

The fine gold recover on a Honcoop is AWESOME! I wish I had brought it back from CA this past summer.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I wish Angus made a 3" like the beaver only with a grizzlie that fed a dbl sluice for oversize and fines side by side. A 2" pump would run it and I bet it would be a killer on fine gold and gems.

One man could handle it and it could be hauled on a S-10 or Ranger size 4wd. And a 3" would move enough dirt to make the work pay.

Just dreaming I guess. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:46 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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Someone remind me to fire Kev as my PR man Laughing


He got me sold on a 4 inch triple. Seems like hes doin something right.

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Kev NC
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:10 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Picker Pete wrote:
Southern Prospector wrote:
Someone remind me to fire Kev as my PR man Laughing


He got me sold on a 4 inch triple. Seems like hes doin something right.


Thanks Pete! He seems to forget how many people I try to get to buy dredges from him!! Laughing Laughing I know of at least 6 sluices he has sold because of me and a bunch of other stuff. Where is my commission? Laughing

Most guys won't spend the extra money to get a Honcoop they will just settle for a Proline or Keene. Shocked

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:48 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Southern Prospector wrote:
dickb wrote:
I wish Angus made a 3" like the beaver only with a grizzlie that fed a dbl sluice for oversize and fines side by side. A 2" pump would run it and I bet it would be a killer on fine gold and gems.

One man could handle it and it could be hauled on a S-10 or Ranger size 4wd. And a 3" would move enough dirt to make the work pay.

Just dreaming I guess. Rolling Eyes

Dickb


http://www.easternusprospectingsupplies.com/index.php?p=products&req=dept&id=8

New 3" Beaver.
do these dredges come with everything but motor/pump ??
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