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Southern Prospector
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:57 am Reply with quoteBack to top

This weekend while dredging Patricia found what I think is a spearhead? Can someone tell me more about it?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:09 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I think your right about it being a spear head.

Great find! Very Happy

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anthony_tn
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:14 am Reply with quoteBack to top

hey Shay, that's a nice one! Looks like a classic Stanly point, roughly 5-8000 years old, pretty large for the type too. Looks like it's been in the water for a long time with surprisingly little damage. Probably a knife, but could've been on a spear.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:55 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Sweet find! Love it.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:41 am Reply with quoteBack to top

anthony_tn wrote:
hey Shay, that's a nice one! Looks like a classic Stanly point, roughly 5-8000 years old, pretty large for the type too. Looks like it's been in the water for a long time with surprisingly little damage. Probably a knife, but could've been on a spear.


You have to be kidding me?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:02 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Nice find. I did a quick look for indian arrow heads and came up with this inventory http://www.caddotc.com/Catalogue/Inventory/Arrowheads/arrowheads.htm

There's many sites out there where you might be able to match that find.

Looks to be a knife. very old and valuable.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:56 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Very cool shay.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Not very valuable (money wise) in that condition, but it is very old for sure. Just think how you're the first person to hold it in thousands of years, that's what makes them valuable to me. Makes you wonder how and why it was lost etc all those years ago. Here's a little info about the Stanly type.
http://www.jimmausartifacts.com/archaic-stanly-point/
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:15 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

You would think something like that would be priceless, guess theres alot of em around still?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:21 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

yeah, more than most people think. Don't even get me started on all the people selling fakes as the real deal too. I saw one time someone had done the math on how many points and knives and tools an average person would have needed in their lifetime. And of course there were plenty that were lost. I can't remember the number of tools they estimated, but it was alot. Then consider that they were here in North America for 14-20000 years (depending on which "expert" you believe), and it's easy to see why there are so many points and tools in the ground. Kind of mind boggling. There's one large field I used to hunt before it was sold a couple of years ago. And I would find a five gallon bucket of broke pieces every year when it was plowed. That still blows my mind.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:29 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

anthony_tn wrote:
yeah, more than most people think. Don't even get me started on all the people selling fakes as the real deal too. I saw one time someone had done the math on how many points and knives and tools an average person would have needed in their lifetime. And of course there were plenty that were lost. I can't remember the number of tools they estimated, but it was alot. Then consider that they were here in North America for 14-20000 years (depending on which "expert" you believe), and it's easy to see why there are so many points and tools in the ground. Kind of mind boggling. There's one large field I used to hunt before it was sold a couple of years ago. And I would find a five gallon bucket of broke pieces every year when it was plowed. That still blows my mind.


Yeah, im still on the lookout for my first point and gold in quartz, chances are I have found em in my classifiers but tossed them right back. lol

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:29 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I agree that it's old.

You have to remember that the Eastern Indians switched to metal mid to late 1400's They fashioned their arrow heads and spears, knifes out of hoops that the Europeans brought over on their barrels. As well as refining their forging and metal working skills from the Europeans. (Though they were quite adept already working Silver & Gold!)

Unfortuately, you let one boat load of Europeans in, and more are sure to follow. (Europeans, the original "Boat People" Laughing ) You know what one Indian said to another one when he saw Columbus land? "Damn, there goes the neighborhood!" To which the other Indian replied. "I knew we should have had tougher Immigration Laws!" Laughing

Any stone tools have to predate Columbus, Jamestown, Plymouth, etc.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 7:55 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Awsome, I found one in where my dogs were digging in there pen a few years ago,nice!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:32 am Reply with quoteBack to top

That is way cool Shay! Love finding that stuff. I got a load of nice rocks this weekend, I'm going to bring you a few sometime to display in your store.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:24 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Cool, I found an old hand ground stone net anchor near a fish trap one time. Have to be careful with stuff like that! Don't say in public where it came from... if any of the underwater archeaological people hear about it they will shut the area down... it's best not to say where it came from... not even the state.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:37 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Shocked WOW really nice find Shay

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